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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Dec 13, 2013 21:11:45 GMT
Their a big thing because of infamy, plus the only real enchantment on Sting is turn into a flashlight when the people who want to rip your guts are nearby. Gotta admit that ability seems detrimental if your in a cave.....
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Post by shadowknight on Dec 13, 2013 22:12:35 GMT
Ok, so where do we stand on this. So far I still see Potter at the disadvantage of not being able to track Frodo, and there is doubt that he would even be able to disarm him due to his primary weapon being named and enchanted. Its still looking like Frodo's fight to lose from where Im standing.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Dec 13, 2013 22:17:06 GMT
Agreed, if Frodo doesn't use the ring for one reason or another he's still a Hobbit, and their whole thing is people don't really notice Hobbits.
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Post by pancakeoverlord on Dec 15, 2013 20:06:46 GMT
Where they're in Little something. They're looking for info about a guy, or his parents? They meet an old woman in the street, someone you hear more about in the book I think. She takes them in a house, while they're exploring upstairs, uh oh she's actually dead and it was Voldys snake all along! Though I thought his Scar alerted him more than his wand. I am super late to this party and this has probably already been addressed. (also this got long and I'm really sorry about that...) Harry and Hermione are visiting Godric's Hollow when they meet Bathilda Bagshot (who was a friend of Dumbledore and she wrote A History of Magic as well as some other text books). They later find out that she was murdered and Voldemort re-animated her corpse to contain his snake Nagini. I don't remember if Harry sensed her or not, but if he did, it would have been by pain in his scar, not through his wand and the only reason he would have sensed her from his scar is because Nagini is one of Voldemort's seven horcruxes.
As far as I can remember, Harry's wand has only ever taken on a "mind of its own", so to speak, when Harry was dueling with Voldemort and it's because Harry's wand and Voldemort's wand are "brothers". They both possess Phoenix feather cores from the tail of the same Phoenix therefore, they have a certain connection and may produce unusual magical effects when forced to duel one another, a phenomenon known as Priori Incantatem. ( "It so happens that the phoenix whose tail feather resides in your wand gave another feather... just one other. It is curious that you should be destined for this wand when its brother... gave you that scar."
—Garrick Ollivander, to Harry Potter) Priori Incantatem is a magical phenomenon that can occur when two wands which share the same source for their cores are forced to compete in combat. It is sometimes referred to as the "reverse-spell effect". "During a wand duel, a simultaneous spellcasting by both parties with twin wand cores will trigger an effect whereby both wands are linked through separate threads of spell energy. The two wand holders then compete in a battle of wills, in which the loser's wand is forced to display in ghostly form the spells which had been cast by said wand, in order of most recent to least recent. If any of those spells are Killing Curses, the victims will appear in ghost-like form, capable of holding a conversation with nearby living beings. When the spells come into contact they send out a seismic pulse which has enough force to knock onlookers from their feet. When the spells meet, they intertwine, making it difficult for either caster to break the connection. A spell-like residue falls from the core of the connection, possibly representing the wills of the casters and the energy of the incantations. A dome effect occurs during the connection, in order to keep any intruders from attacking either wizard or witch. The sound of the connection is similar to electrical arcs." (from the Harry Potter wiki.)
So, all that being said, I don't think Harry's wand has the ability to "sense" dark magic so much as it has the ability to sense it's brother and Harry can only sense Voldemort because when Voldemort used the Killing Curse on Lilly Potter, the force of her love and the pureness of her sacrifice bounced back at Voldemort and ended up splitting his soul and accidentally turning Harry into his last horcrux (which is why Harry had to "die" in the last book, to destroy the part of Voldemort's soul that lived inside of him.)
Wow this is so much longer that I intended and I'm not done yet...
So, on to spells.
Harry has a variety of spells at his disposal, some of which have been mentioned by name, others have only been mentioned in passing.
There's a stealth sensoring charm that detects those under magical disguise (In Order of the Phoenix, Umbridge casts this around her office. Also used at the entrance to the Ministry of Magic.)
Specialis Revelio (Scarpin's Revelaspell)- Causes an object to show its hidden secrets or magical properties. (Used by Hermione to find out more of Harry's Advanced Potion-Making book in Half-Blood Prince. Used by Ernie Macmillan to find out the ingredients of a potion.)
Supersensory Charm- Able to possess superior senses than before. (Mentioned by Ron outside of the Hogwarts Express during the epilogue of Deathly Hallows as a potential substitute for using mirrors while driving a car but I suppose Harry could use this to better detect Frodo when he's in Predator stealth mode, but I may just be crazy, I don't know.)
There's also Accio (the summoning charm) which works on objects, so maybe Harry can't summon Hobbits with it, but I don't see why he wouldn't be able to summon the ring off of Frodo's finger, which would allow him to then see Frodo. I'm sure there's more, but I'll stop here because this is already longer than I originally intended.... |
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Post by shgondunstan on Dec 20, 2013 19:14:03 GMT
OK, I haven't read this all yet(might now that I'm off work until the night of the first), only the first page and this one, but... How in the world is Frodo, with only the Ring and Sting, supposed to even "put up a good fight" Vs a HP wizard, with halfway/bit better then good combat training, and the ability to Apparate?
As far as the Ring goes, tough I forget if Harry knows it, technically that human detection charm should work on Hobbits, as they are a branch of humans. Even if he doesn't know it though, the ring isn't full invisibility, as it shows the wearers, faded, shadow in sunlight. And anyway, Harry is a clever boy when it comes to life and death fights, he's not going to just stand there doing nothing and say "Well the little guy I just had this overpowering urge to kill has up and vanished... I Guess I should just stand here like an idiot, and leave myself completely undefended"...
Frodo's only option is to put on the Ring and hope for a back stabe to work, where as Harry has a lot of them... Hell, as HP magic doesn't really take anything out of the user, he could just put his back to a rock, and start casting stunners all day long, or, having caught a quick look at Frodo before he put on the Ring, just "Accio dagger" or "Accio cloak" for that matter.
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Post by shgondunstan on Mar 11, 2014 1:12:57 GMT
...Now that I think of it... Does the Ring even make Sting invisible? I seem to remember the spiders seeing it...
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