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Post by shadowknight on Dec 13, 2013 16:47:10 GMT
Harry's wand reacted to Voldemorts wand because of the wands being twins with each other. Harry's scar only reacted to Voldemort and Nagini because Harry had a piece of Voldemorts soul stuck inside him....that was a major plot point to why Potter couldn't win until he sacrificed. Without the soul piece his scar no longer burned at Voldemorts presence. Aside from that Potter has never shown the ability to sense dark magic, only Voldemorts soul. |
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Post by silverstarcross on Dec 13, 2013 16:47:39 GMT
There isn't anything that would be enough to say a yes or no to the question, mostly due to the fact the only Dark Lord Harry ever got the chance to fight against was Voldemort, himself. Its the toss of the coin with this one, not an impossibility for Harry's Holly Wand to start the buzzing, its not out of the question it might not pick it up in time, either. Hmm, how often does Frodo have to take off the Ring for the sake of his sanity, after he wears it?Note to self: If nothing else, this will give the Old-Owl Rowling a fine list of questions she would do well to address and tackle, a lot of these questions are actually good to ask. Well, it would be influencing him the entire time; however, if you are asking when he will go all gollum, that stage of insanity takes years. The first signs of insanity appear around a week or two of, if wearing it the hole time, or a few months if not wearing it. Times vary from wearer to wearer, but that that I listed seems to be an average. I don't know if any more info could be provided beyond what you may know on the matter. Regardless, does it necessarily protect against bad fumes or the like, just by wearing it? |
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Post by shadowknight on Dec 13, 2013 16:55:52 GMT
Well, it would be influencing him the entire time; however, if you are asking when he will go all gollum, that stage of insanity takes years. The first signs of insanity appear around a week or two of, if wearing it the hole time, or a few months if not wearing it. Times vary from wearer to wearer, but that that I listed seems to be an average. I don't know if any more info could be provided beyond what you may know on the matter. Regardless, does it necessarily protect against bad fumes or the like, just by wearing it? ......................are you saying that Harry is going to start dropping gas grenades on the battle field? |
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Post by silverstarcross on Dec 13, 2013 17:01:02 GMT
I don't know if any more info could be provided beyond what you may know on the matter. Regardless, does it necessarily protect against bad fumes or the like, just by wearing it? ......................are you saying that Harry is going to start dropping gas grenades on the battle field? I was gonna propose expressions to that effect, admittedly. Dung bombs ahoy, there. |
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Dec 13, 2013 17:02:25 GMT
It depends on how much power and or ambition the person has.
Gandalf would only take a day or less from what he said, the same with others like him.
Humans Dwarves and Elves take longer than beings like Gandalf but not as long as Hobbits
Frodo took so long because he's a Hobbit and they have little to know inherent ambition.
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I wonder how Potter would be affected by it's presence. He's not the most ambitious person but on the other hand his powers might make him attractive to the ring.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Dec 13, 2013 17:02:54 GMT
Cross Potter only has what Ruliya said he had.
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Post by shadowknight on Dec 13, 2013 17:08:32 GMT
It depends on how much power and or ambition the person has. Gandalf would only take a day or less from what he said, the same with others like him. Humans Dwarves and Elves take longer than beings like Gandalf but not as long as Hobbits Frodo took so long because he's a Hobbit and they have little to know inherent ambition. - I wonder how Potter would be affected by it's presence. He's not the most ambitious person but on the other hand his powers might make him attractive to the ring. My point still stands that, if they decide to wait until the Ring drives Frodo Mad.....they are going to have a long wait. - Maybe if Potter gets hold of the ring......and if he is actively trying to get it...well Frodo is already in "kill to guard the ring" mode so.... |
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Post by silverstarcross on Dec 13, 2013 17:14:45 GMT
Was trying to think of an idea, the last thing you need to hear from me is an expression of 'I.A.N.M.R' coming from me, all of a sudden.
The spell Accio is allowed, yes?
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Dec 13, 2013 17:20:16 GMT
All the spells he's been shown to use yes, and any we know he definitely got taught during Hogwarts. I assume he knows Immobulus and Wingardium Leviosa and such, as Hermoine uses them.
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Post by silverstarcross on Dec 13, 2013 17:23:51 GMT
He would know the spells.
Hmm, what's concrete about Accio is that it brings anything you're trying to summon, right to you where you need it, correct?
Yet I can't help but be afraid that there may be a trace of irony if the spell gets in play.
If the spell gets used to remove the ring and succeeds, it would be very ironic, considering that Potter may not want the Ring itself, so much as to just remove it, yet depending on how long Frodo has it on, its not gonna make too much difference to him, while all Potter has, going for him is having a target to hit.
Its an idea, its not a perfect solution, but it exists.
Also, in the novels, Harry had his Holly Wand repaired by using the PEW(Peverell Elder Wand) and casting a variant of Repairo with it, as far as I recalled.
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Post by shadowknight on Dec 13, 2013 17:24:32 GMT
Was trying to think of an idea, the last thing you need to hear from me is an expression of 'I.A.N.M.R' coming from me, all of a sudden. The spell Accio is allowed, yes? Do you mean this? "A word springing from Harry Potter used to get someone to hand an object to you. Similar in use to using Jedi powers. Effectiveness depends on level of compliance from people nearby.
"Jamie: "Accio waterbottle!"
Jenny hands Jamie the water bottle.
If so, then I don't think it would work even if it was allowed. The Ring is basically alive, it possesses a will of its own, a will strong enough to warp even the noblest hero. All the ring longs for is to return to its original masters hand, so I doubt Accio will do anything in this. The Ring would Know that Potter is not even of its world and would stay with Frodo. Edit: And as GA said, the stronger the Will or power of the wearer, the faster the corruption. So if Harry did get a hold of the ring, He would probably become a younger version of Voldy within hours. |
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Dec 13, 2013 17:26:45 GMT
I knew this would get brought up. Harry is unaware that it's a magic ring that is behind it. So he wouldn't know to summon it.
Also, Harry couldn't Accio the Horcruxes, and the Ring is also a dark, highly magical object, I'm not sure it would even work.
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Post by silverstarcross on Dec 13, 2013 17:32:57 GMT
Was trying to think of an idea, the last thing you need to hear from me is an expression of 'I.A.N.M.R' coming from me, all of a sudden. The spell Accio is allowed, yes? Do you mean this? "A word springing from Harry Potter used to get someone to hand an object to you. Similar in use to using Jedi powers. Effectiveness depends on level of compliance from people nearby.
"Jamie: "Accio waterbottle!"
Jenny hands Jamie the water bottle.
If so, then I don't think it would work even if it was allowed. The Ring is basically alive, it possesses a will of its own, a will strong enough to warp even the noblest hero. All the ring longs for is to return to its original masters hand, so I doubt Accio will do anything in this. The Ring would Know that Potter is not even of its world and would stay with Frodo. Edit: And as GA said, the stronger the Will or power of the wearer, the faster the corruption. So if Harry did get a hold of the ring, He would probably become a younger version of Voldy within hours. That's a 'basic' form of it, but the manner I might be thinking may be along the lines of Pseudo-Hammerspace(not impossible a form of Accio to take, altogether.) really. That possibility would make the Irony very much worse if the Ring isn't dealt away with, quickly.(Destroying it altogether here is out of the question as it is, but keeping it away from the opposition isn't.) What about Frodo's blade, Sting, then? |
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Dec 13, 2013 17:35:29 GMT
@shadow
Accio is more like TK it gets an object to come to you it doesn't make someone hand it to you. If it could work on the ring then it would slide off the finger to Potter.
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However I don't know if it would work, as Ruliya and you pointed out it's a powerful dark artifact. More powerful than anything Potter has encountered.
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Post by shadowknight on Dec 13, 2013 17:50:04 GMT
OK, and yea, as to Stig the spell would work fine provided he decides to use the spell. That would leave an invisible Frodo with nothing but his bare hands to fight with.
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