Frodo Baggins vs Harry Potter

[silverstarcross]

Dec 13, 2013 1:05:51 GMT GuardianAngel1911-Admin said:

I don't know what spell you mean.
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As to code....what?

Its the Area Spell that was mentioned in The Deathly Hallows games, Right there.
I suspect in turn, Frodo may wind up with in-game stuff, which this possibility gets interesting afterward.

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A code is a form of challenge meant to be cracked, whether it be for unlocking doors or to hack into computers.
I figured that this is a matter meant to be decoded as to how to hit Frodo, its one I will tackle if nobody minds.

[shadowknight]

Um, Isn't that game non cannon or something. It was like a third person shooter....with magic wands..... not a very stable platform for research.

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as to Frodo's invisibility, it makes him like 99.9% invisible to everything short of the  ring wraiths.....he lights up like a supernova for them.

[silverstarcross]

Actually they didn't state it being non-canon, outright.
Having No Stated Texts of Volumes on hand is far worse to begin with, believe me I know.

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I am still looking, didn't they say somewhere that Mad-Eye Moody's own 'Mad-Eye' was able to detect unseen enemies and all that jazz?

[shadowknight]

Dec 13, 2013 1:39:14 GMT silverstarcross said:

Actually they didn't state it being non-canon, outright.
Having No Stated Texts of Volumes on hand is far worse to begin with, believe me I know.

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I am still looking, didn't they say somewhere that Mad-Eye Moody's own 'Mad-Eye' was able to detect unseen enemies and all that jazz?

I dont know about that, but this isn't normal invisibility. the reason Ring Wraiths are drawn to the wearer, and the reason it makes you nearly non existent, is because it literally puts you in the spirit plain leaving only the faintest hint of you left in the mortal plain, that why if a human wears the ring to often he will get stuck in the spirit plain and become a wraith like entity.....not this happens after years of use but you get the point. 

[GuardianAngel1911-Admin]

Anyone would suffer that if they used it enough times over years but yeah.
Potters biggest problem is getting around the invisibility. He has no magic sense, no way to see through illusions. It's not like Dresden who could turn on his sight and see through the invisibility, or sense the raw darkness of the rings corruptive effects like Dresden and Gandalf both. Potter is just kind of up a creek without a paddle unless he can figure out where Frodo is by hearing a twig snap or leaves on the ground rustling and even then there's no guarantee it'll work.

[shadowknight]

Dec 13, 2013 2:14:14 GMT GuardianAngel1911-Admin said:

Anyone would suffer that if they used it enough times over years but yeah.
Potters biggest problem is getting around the invisibility. He has no magic sense, no way to see through illusions. It's not like Dresden who could turn on his sight and see through the invisibility, or sense the raw darkness of the rings corruptive effects like Dresden and Gandalf both. Potter is just kind of up a creek without a paddle unless he can figure out where Frodo is by hearing a twig snap or leaves on the ground rustling and even then there's no guarantee it'll work.

Trying to listen for him is going to be on the extreme end of hard. Hobbit's feet have basically evolved to where, if they were taller, they would be like ninjas. (I dug through various wikis a few hours ago) If I remember what I read correctly, Bilbo was able to sneak past some giants or trolls or something like that, who had pore eye sight and relied on hearing. His foot falls made no sound even on the forest floor. So yea, Frodo may snap a twig or two but those are probably going to be few and far between. 

[GuardianAngel1911-Admin]

well there's still the leaves on the ground.

[shadowknight]

So anyway, where do we stand on this. Harry could win with his larger arsenal of magic, but he has really no way of finding Frodo short of accidentally. Frodo could win with a stealth kill, but he would need to get close enough to stab potter multiple times. With that said we really cant account for chance things like leaves and sticks, so.......

[Knukails]

Stalemate?

[shadowknight]

Dec 13, 2013 3:00:24 GMT Knukails said:

Stalemate?

Not quite. I honestly think that , if Frodo is smart enough to avoid stepping in puddles and on sticks, that he could win.
here is the break down.

H.Potter:
-Wand {ranged advantage}
--various spells(disarm, human tracking,critical wound, paralyze,ect..){versatility advantage}
-Training/schooling{skill advantage}


disadvantage(s)
-no spell to track inhuman opponents.
-wand can break making his magic a lot less effective.
-can be stabbed to death.
-No familiarity with the battle environment.
(has potter ever faced an invisible opponent before, like a no see at all)

F.Baggins:
-Stig (Frodo's double edged elven dagger = sword for its current user.){cqc advantage}
-Short stature(around 4 feet tall. Better for slipping into cover to evade Potter){evasion advantage}
-perfect invisibility + natural Hobbit silent movement {evasion advantage}
-Ring corruption (basically makes Frodo go for the kill do defend it) {blood lust advantage}
-Knowledge of environment (though he might not know the battle field, he will know the environment of his home realm)


Disadvantage(s)
-No combat training 
-No ranged weapons
-No magic resistances
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So, with all this in mind, if Frodo can stealth his way into close quarters and get a surprise stab or two in, he is almost sure to come out on top 

[Knukails]

So he can predator Harry basically.

[shadowknight]

Dec 13, 2013 4:10:49 GMT Knukails said:

So he can predator Harry basically.

Basically. As long as he doesn't do something stupid, then he has a vary good chance of ramming his blade through Harry before Harry would know he was there. If Frodo didn't have the ring, it would be heavily in Potters favor, with the ring Frodo is basically a predator.....except with better cloaking capabilities.

[silverstarcross]

I'd say Stalemate at the long run of things, most likely in the form of Mutually Assured Destruction being the most obvious form.

I also suspect another possible way to indirectly affect Frodo, but it has something to do with the fact the Ring itself is more or less an Avatar of Jackassitude, that even if the wearer(s) in question doesn't wind up a Jackass themselves, its gonna do a number on their Psyche one way or another.(Obvious side-effect, I'm sure there's more Side-effects than just that one, but I'm not sure if I can recall them all.)

The problem with said way, is more or less that its reliability is halved, as in 'The Torso is separated from the Legs' kind of halved.

Its not like the case of Kite or Haseo of the dot hack(.hack) universe, where they have the options to consider applying heavy-duty AoE forms of Illegal Powers if their powers are totally working and in a life-or-death engagement, and its not like Percy Jackson's own case where there's always unleashing a Hurricane in bloodlust if he wants someone dead too badly, either.

This is a tougher matter than first glances suggest.

[shadowknight]

.......... Cross.....can you repeat everything you just said.....but shrink it down and use small words.....and be clearer...that would help.

[silverstarcross]

Dec 13, 2013 7:10:42 GMT shadowknight said:

.......... Cross.....can you repeat everything you just said.....but shrink it down and use small words.....and be clearer...that would help.

Before or after I mentioned the Stalemate bit?
I can do either one if you like.