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Post by Lady Ruliya on Aug 19, 2013 11:16:05 GMT
Yea, I thought they were all out (that Dassadec mentioned), hence why I never brought them up.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 19, 2013 14:28:49 GMT
I had intended any with godlike abilities, because omnipotents and nigh omnipotents always complicate things.
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Post by dassadec on Aug 19, 2013 17:48:35 GMT
So Douwd tier are too powerful to include, makes sense, what about some of the others, the Nacene and Oocompans haven't showed too much to be considered godly IMO, as well as the Galactic barrier enhanced humans, a question, would ST humans experience the galactic barrier change like that one guy in TOS if they crossed into SW space? youtu.be/H_XbWq49vUMIrrelevant now but that's the ship the Douwd manifested, its a decent shield feat for the Galaxy class though. Tanks a 500gigawatt beam for 2 seconds. Not sure how to do the math on that though - So would all of the races I linked to be out?
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 19, 2013 18:13:06 GMT
Thasians...I think yes due to the "making things go away" deal.
The Companion...the largest thing it's tk'd was a shuttle....but on the other hand there's it's immortality.
The Traveler yes...to be honest I forgot he wasn't a Q but a...whatever he was.
Gary is allowed as long as he isn't immortal, however the Barrier thing that granted his powers and Abeloth's homeworld are both taken out (otherwise both sides have the ability to mass produce beings on that tier) unless that seems unfair, I'm trying to keep the match even so if the Barrier being in is okay with everyone then let me know and I'll allow it.
the Greek Gods....other than Apollo most of them would be based on power scaling from Apollo...could they be killed I can't find anything specific on that detail on them either.
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Post by dassadec on Aug 19, 2013 19:32:51 GMT
"Gary is allowed as long as he isn't immortal, however the Barrier thing that granted his powers and Abeloth's homeworld are both taken out (otherwise both sides have the ability to mass produce beings on that tier) unless that seems unfair, I'm trying to keep the match even so if the Barrier being in is okay with everyone then let me know and I'll allow it." - The galactic barrier is what trek calls the edge of the galaxy, here's the link en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Galactic_barrierIt seems the change is random, or subsequent voyages near the barrier didn't include crew with high Esper ratings Probably due to Kirks reports on the incident. en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Esper_rating- Gary and elizabeth were both not immortal, if their demise is any indication, I don't think they are beyond Jedi tier, and an extremely high esper rating is required to survive the process. crew that began the transformation with insufficient mental capacity ended up dying horribly.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 19, 2013 19:38:05 GMT
ah, well it's all the way around they galaxy everyone is in for the sake of this match then.
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Post by dassadec on Aug 19, 2013 19:43:35 GMT
"the Greek Gods....other than Apollo most of them would be based on power scaling from Apollo...could they be killed I can't find anything specific on that detail on them either." - Considering Apollo was the only one still alive in that episode I'd say they must be able to die and I don't think it had to do with old age,if speculate they tried to step out of their weight class with a Douwd level being or something. Ship phaser level fire should do the trick, but handheld ones were a nonissue, I'm not as well versed in TOS as TNG so I'm not as sure of my answers without doing some digging
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Post by dassadec on Aug 19, 2013 19:47:43 GMT
"ah, well it's all the way around they galaxy everyone is in for the sake of this match then." - Alright, fair enough, it only has shown to affect full humans anyway so the number of these beings that can be fielded is limited in that and being in around the top 10th percentile of esper ratings - Any rulin on the Nacene and ascended Oocompans?
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 19, 2013 20:05:39 GMT
Apollo was the only one because the others "ascended" what exactly this means I don't know.
Nacene...hmmmm I'll have to think on them...the ability to manipulate thousands of ships and control where they are is a bit up there...I'll ponder on them a bit.
Ocompans, they just have limited telepathy and telekenisis ?
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Post by dassadec on Aug 19, 2013 20:52:33 GMT
"Ocompans, they just have limited telepathy and telekenisis ?" - Kes manages to send voyager 9000 light years in A sew seconds safely in addition to the ones you stated
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