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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 9, 2013 16:59:43 GMT
agreed, also I think that weapon is the kind of reason most sites have no time fuckery rules, the question is does it actually count or not. But perhaps I should let others debate that if they show up.
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Post by shadowknight on Aug 11, 2013 6:14:23 GMT
I am siding with Star Wars, I do enjoy Star Trek as well. The reason I think that Composite Star Wars has many advantages aside from Super Weapons and Mass cloning. It also has had numerous droid armies over the course of its history, billions of force users ( dark and light), and the star-forge that, as long as a powerful sith controlled it, could create an infinite armada of capital ships, snub fighters, and war droids.
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Aug 11, 2013 9:40:51 GMT
Yea Shadow, it's pretty much agreed that SW stomps via ridiculous numbers.
Well if we discount Trek's uber Time hax ;P
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Post by shadowknight on Aug 12, 2013 8:07:47 GMT
I have always found messing with time to be (under statement of the millennium incoming)a tad over powered. I mean, they could literally go back to when the first jedi was learning the force and kill him, thus altering the number of force users drastically.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 13, 2013 3:59:44 GMT
yeah that's why I'm somewhat iffy on the time hax. That said I do have another idea for a Star Trek match, though I don't know if anyone knows the other side here well enough.
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Post by shadowknight on Aug 15, 2013 2:29:47 GMT
I actually had an interesting idea, what if we pitted the the Enterprise from the original show ( with it's original crew under Captain Kirk) against the Enterprise from the next generation ( with it's crew under Captain Picard).
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 15, 2013 3:35:22 GMT
Funnily enough I almost suggested a match like that on FP once, if you want get a couple pictures and PM me and I could make the thread
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Post by shadowknight on Aug 15, 2013 4:36:16 GMT
Funnily enough I almost suggested a match like that on FP once, if you want get a couple pictures and PM me and I could make the thread I sent you four pictures that I think are fairly good. Let me know if you like them or want different ones and I'll see if I can find more.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 15, 2013 13:57:34 GMT
Will do
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Post by dassadec on Aug 19, 2013 3:27:05 GMT
Hey guys, I'll do my best to support Trek here, Since the Q have been barred I direct you to the Douwd en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Douwdone of their kind instantly destroyed the Husnock, a race of 50 Billion all throughout the Alpha Quadrant If he can manage that , I'm thinking he's more than capable of popping all kinds of SW forces He can also manifest Ships casually to ward passerbys to his world off. I have little doubt as to whether a being like that can kill force users the same way, since there would be less numbers to target and AFAIK, Force users have no resistance to such a thing - The nacene have the ability to remove the FTL disadvantage from the Trek side as well they can transport starships over 50,000 lightyears in moments en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Nacene- Kes, and by extension all Oocompans can also sling ships 10,000 lightyears in moments en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Kes
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Post by shadowknight on Aug 19, 2013 3:33:21 GMT
Hey guys, I'll do my best to support Trek here, Since the Q have been barred I direct you to the Douwd en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Douwdone of their kind instantly destroyed the Husnock, a race of 50 Billion all throughout the Alpha Quadrant If he can manage that , I'm thinking he's more than capable of popping all kinds of SW forces He can also manifest Ships casually to ward passerbys to his world off. I have little doubt as to whether a being like that can kill force users the same way, since there would be less numbers to target and AFAIK, Force users have no resistance to such a thing - The nacene have the ability to remove the FTL disadvantage from the Trek side as well they can transport starships over 50,000 lightyears in moments en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Nacene- Kes, and by extension all Oocompans can also sling ships 10,000 lightyears in moments en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/KesIts nice to see some more debating going on on this thread, and that was a fairly impressive feat. P.S. you should post an introduction thread.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 19, 2013 3:37:46 GMT
I had the feeling I should have said no gods not those specific groups.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 19, 2013 3:38:31 GMT
also welcome to the site.
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Post by dassadec on Aug 19, 2013 5:06:29 GMT
I'll try to dig around and find a few force user tier beings, here's one who may be a good benchmark for thasians en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Charlie_X en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Thasian- this creature has a few decent feats in the link en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Companion- Humans with high esper ratings(Star Trek's Psionic rating scale) who come into contact with the Galactic barrier will start developing abilities similar to this guy en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gary_Mitchell - The greek gods might qualify as force tier beings lol en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Greek_godI'm not sure The Douwd classify as a "god", just an energy being of sorts, the Q are dismissive of the Douwd and their beliefs, so the Q are still a tier above them easily. It's important to note that there are at least a half dozen races that are on the Douwd's Tier en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Nagilumen.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Organian - These guys managed to stop the UFP an Klingons fleetds from going to war by making their hostile systems/weapons and such not work - This guy may be the only being on or above Q tier in canon, There is the 0 and the Qhasor but they are non canon. sucks that ST novels dont get to count as canon because there was an awesome sublight manouverability feat in on TNG book i read way back in the day where the Enterprise-D flips circles and lateral motion strafes around a BattlestarGalactica-like vessel to illustrate the futility of charging weapons lol en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Traveler- thanks for the welcome, some of you guys may know me from FP, I'll be participating here a lot from now on, a new Debate forum will be a good experience.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Aug 19, 2013 6:18:05 GMT
I think there's only one non FPer here so I'm sure everyone will be accuainted with you. Need to get better about posting matches, but that's a me issue more than anything. and when you posted that it also reminded me of beings like Abeloth and the Celestials and the...whatever Father Son and Daughter were...technically they were the same as Abeloth but still. So that's why I made the god tier comment.
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