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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 4, 2014 1:51:36 GMT
I know there are, I mentioned the Beam Rifles (their lasers) I don't really know all the weapons both sides use I just know the specific ones I've been able to find for the Turians, the ones I listed are just examples. I do know that they use similar armor to what Shepard was wearing that survived unaided reentry, and that stuff was damaged from the exploding ship.
I almost said Courascant but that seemed too urban think it would work better though?
I'm not sure, I've never been good with ship battles.
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Post by Knukails on Jan 4, 2014 1:51:38 GMT
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Post by Knukails on Jan 4, 2014 1:53:33 GMT
I know there are, I mentioned the Beam Rifles (their lasers) I don't really know all the weapons both sides use I just know the specific ones I've been able to find for the Turians, the ones I listed are just examples. I do know that they use similar armor to what Shepard was wearing that survived unaided reentry, and that stuff was damaged from the exploding ship. I almost said Courascant but that seemed too urban think it would work better though? I'm not sure, I've never been good with ship battles. I was gonna say Courascant as well. Ah, well the Sangheili have the advantage up there. |
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 4, 2014 2:09:50 GMT
Okay to the weapons..the Needler really will be useless, it's literally just tossing a solid object at the Turians and is essentially what the shields are made to no sell. Plasma rifle I covered, Carbine..again projectiles and Turians have a natural resistance to limited radiation and the armors offer some defense to that, but again projectiles which are what ME shields are designed against. Type 33 Light Anti Armor weapon..can cause some damage to be sure but Garrus in full armor and shields did manage to survive a missile from a gunship..he was knocked out for a while and had armor damage and some scars but still, that's some impressive armor and shielding.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 4, 2014 2:28:32 GMT
They use a lot of plasma based weapons don't they? That's going to be a bitch for them.
Type-25 Carbine..is a projectile weapon so same problem as a lot of their weapons, object with mass that's not going to penetrate easily.
The Beam Rifle says it uses particle acceleration? So does it fire a energy beam or is there actually a projectile there. the particle acceleration seems to indicate some kind of mass but I'm not sure.
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Post by Knukails on Jan 4, 2014 2:33:41 GMT
They use a lot of plasma based weapons don't they? That's going to be a bitch for them. Type-25 Carbine..is a projectile weapon so same problem as a lot of their weapons, object with mass that's not going to penetrate easily. The Beam Rifle says it uses particle acceleration? So does it fire a energy beam or is there actually a projectile there. the particle acceleration seems to indicate some kind of mass but I'm not sure. The Particle Beam Rifle is a battery-powered, directed-energy weapon that fires ionized particles at its targets instead of accelerating small projectiles. The weapon is nearly silent, gives off a negligible muzzle report, weighs considerably less than its UNSC analog and inflicts wounds akin to the 14.5mm SRS 99 AM making it, by all assessments, a potent force multiplier. The use of particle acceleration offers the distinct advantage of superior penetration, as the beam will always pass through a target completely, even through cover. |
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 4, 2014 2:34:01 GMT
Also I read something about the Elites actual fleet, not the covenant fleet but the Elite's own ships (since the Covenant is similar to the Alliance in that it's multiple races/groups) only numbered in the hundreds? If so aren't they kind of outnumbered by the Turian Fleet?
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 4, 2014 2:37:47 GMT
KnukailsI read that, and that's what I meant do those particles have mass, I'm pretty sure they won't actually be stopped by the kinetic barriers but was just curious.
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Post by Knukails on Jan 4, 2014 2:40:57 GMT
Also I read something about the Elites actual fleet, not the covenant fleet but the Elite's own ships (since the Covenant is similar to the Alliance in that it's multiple races/groups) only numbered in the hundreds? If so aren't they kind of outnumbered by the Turian Fleet? I think the fleet is mid hundreds to a thousand but yeah, tureens have more. But the Sangheili have the advantage of superior Slip-Space drives. |
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Post by Knukails on Jan 4, 2014 2:41:37 GMT
KnukailsI read that, and that's what I meant do those particles have mass, I'm pretty sure they won't actually be stopped by the kinetic barriers but was just curious. Oh, I have no idea. |
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 4, 2014 2:49:04 GMT
Everything I've read says they should go through so I'm going with they will, still tech powers are going to be a bitch on the ground. Here's some quotes from mass effect Revelation
“At least they were going in heavy. Every member of the ground team was wearing body armor equipped with fully charged kinetic shield generators, as well as three-quarters visored headgear. They each carried half a dozen grenades and the Alliance’s standard issue Hahne-Kedar G-912 assault rifle. The ammo clip on each weapon held over four thousand rounds; miniature pellets smaller than grains of sand. When fired at sufficient velocity, the nearly microscopic projectiles were capable of inflicting massive damage.”
“A few stray bullets had penetrated the kinetic barriers protecting her torso only to ricochet off the heavy plates of her body armor, inflicting no damage beyond small dents and discolorations. But her right leg, where the armor was thinner and the highest concentration of fire had drained the shields, had been reduced to pulp and hamburger.”
“At point-blank range the rounds from Saren’s assault rifle sheared off half of the guy’s head.”
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“He approached the first one carefully, then relaxed when he say clear evidence that the man was truly dead: six finger-sized holes in a tight pattern showed where the close-range blast of a scatter gun had torn through the front of his protective vest, creating a single fist-sized hole as the rounds exited his back.”
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“As they rolled together on the ground Skarr leveraged the barrel of his gun under his adversary’s chin and pulled the trigger, removing most of everything above the neck.”
-pistol
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showing some resistance of heavier armor and the damage of the pellets the weapons fire, I'm curious is a 50 caliber quite a bit more powerful than a 14.5 mm? I would assume so but sometimes it's hard to know.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 4, 2014 2:54:28 GMT
From what I can tell the heat from the plasma likely won't be enough to melt the armor for a long time, the rifles melt titanium after several shots meaning they hit 430 degrees celcius, Shepards damaged armor survived 3.8 times that during his fall to a planets surface, there was damage true but it had already been damaged by the Collector ship attack so there's that too and his body was intact so that says something.
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Post by Knukails on Jan 4, 2014 2:54:47 GMT
Hmm, this would certainly change up the Sangheili tactics.
They're about the same.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 4, 2014 3:04:41 GMT
@knuk
Okay, like I said hard to be sure with the numbers used for Calibers sometimes. I'm curious then, would the Particle Beam Rifle still just one shot like that? Or would it be slowed by the heavier..heavy armor around the torso and such? I'm curious after that quote, the weaker armor I have no doubts but again I'm just curious this kind of thing could make or break the battle for either side.
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Post by Knukails on Jan 4, 2014 3:13:21 GMT
@knuk Okay, like I said hard to be sure with the numbers used for Calibers sometimes. I'm curious then, would the Particle Beam Rifle still just one shot like that? Or would it be slowed by the heavier..heavy armor around the torso and such? I'm curious after that quote, the weaker armor I have no doubts but again I'm just curious this kind of thing could make or break the battle for either side. Well, It would one shot but the Sangheili aren't known for innovation and on the spot adaption. Those are qualities that kept humanity alive against them. Maybe they would start using the rifles more so they could start tinkering with them to make different weapons but they would be extremely rudimentary at best. |
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