Glactic Empire Colonization Force vs Na'vi native defenders

[GuardianAngel1911-Admin]

20 years after the RDA get their asses kicked off Pandora a new ship appears in the skies, it's dagger like form piercing the heavens over Pandora. An Imperial Star Destroyer containing a contingent of the 501st Legion. Their assignment is to turn this new world into a mining colony, as such orbital bombardment is strictly forbidden unless absolutely necessary. To ensure they will avoid problems with the natives the 501st have been ordered to purge the planet of it's native inhabitants, and anything else that gets in their way. In addition to the standard 501st ground forces there are also four Imperial Platoons of EVO Troopers assisting in the effort all members of the 501st themselves. Can the Spaish British Galactic Empire eradicate the Aztec Iroquois Na'vi or will the natives repel a second invasion

[shadowknight]

All right!!! I'm backing the boys it white.

The Stormtroopers of the 501st are Darth Vader's personal Legion. They are comprised of Clones from the clone wars, so each one is a Veteran who survived a brutal three year galaxy wide war. Each man of the 501st is loyal to a T so there will be no...sympathizing with the natives.

The Primary Star Destroyer used by the empire (up until a year or two prier to "A New Hope") Was the Imperial I-class Star Destroyer, so I'll assume that is the one we are using. The I-class has can deploy A MAXIMUM of :
-9,700 Ground Troops(in this case the Legion and their evo support Units)
-50 Mechanized units(20 At-Ats/30 At-Sts)
-60 Air units (48 TIE/LN starfighters/
12
TIE/sa bombers)

The atmosphere of Pandora should be no problem, the Infantry and Mechanized forces have atmosphere controls in their armor/vehicles. (they are sealed in and perfectly safe from the air)

The Natives will present a challenge. They are masters of their environment with the ability to attack from every where; however, unlike the RDA, the Empire will actively start burning the forest to the ground to drive the natives from their defensive positions.  

I'm giving the edge to the 501st.
Their tech FAR out preforms the RDAs, the Tie fighters provide them with a far superior air force (they will literally be flying circles around those dino things). AT-AT will absolutely steamroll Native defensive positions (they have no tow cables and nothing that can punch through the walkers armor), the AT-STs will provide the ground forces with a fair amount of fire support and, unlike Endor, the Na'vi haven't had the time to spy on the Empire, so their only hope would be the god lady sending the animals on a blitz charge. A combination of AT-ATs and Tie bombers should be enough to stop the beasts cold. 

I will provide info on the ground forces themselves in a little bit.

For the Empire!!!!!

[GuardianAngel1911-Admin]

Lol imagine the look on the Na'vi's faces as a lone AT-AT moves towards them looking like some demonic beast from their nightmares.

[shadowknight]

Nov 15, 2013 15:08:01 GMT GuardianAngel1911-Admin said:

Lol imagine the look on the Na'vi's faces as a lone AT-AT moves towards them looking like some demonic beast from their nightmares.

yea, and I can actually picture the reaction on the Imperial commanders face when he learns that the natives decided to hold up in the place with the floating mountains (because of the system scrambler effect). The conversation would probably go as fallows.
Trooper:"Sir. they natives have pulled back to quadrant  00212."
Officer:" The place with the flying mountains? "
Trooper:"Yes Sir. It appears their digging in."
Officer:"Going to use the place to scramble our censers?
Trooper:"Yes Sir. It looks that way."
Officer:"Position the At-Ats on ridge 47. The Natives have put themselves in a hole, time to throw on the dirt."

A few minutes latter the walkers fire every thing they have into the mountains, causing them to bust apart and rain down on the Na'vi's heads.

[GuardianAngel1911-Admin]

Yeah...I really never understood why the RDA didn't do something about they fact they knew the mountains fucked with their sensors.
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I wonder how well the Imperials will handle the "Nature Charge"

[CosmicBehemoth]

Apart from the Titanotheres, the Empire should be fine about things. And even those should be vulnerable to rocket launchers and lasers and heavy blasters.

So what are we looking at for numbers for the Imperials here, in troops and vehicles?

[shadowknight]

Nov 15, 2013 15:37:59 GMT GuardianAngel1911-Admin said:

Yeah...I really never understood why the RDA didn't do something about they fact they knew the mountains fucked with their sensors.
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I wonder how well the Imperials will handle the "Nature Charge"

Well, the infantry wouldn't fair to well, and the giant hammerheads would put a few At-sts out of commission; however, the At-Ats should be fine. I feel the Star Destroyer would detect the sudden surge of movement and alert the nearest bomber wing to carpet bomb the herds of beasts with ArmaTek VL-61/79 proton bombs. Each bomber can hold up to 15 metric tons in the bomb bay. Bombers are one of the slowest space craft in the empire; however, at 850 km/h in atmosphere, I think they have the speed to avoid the dino flyers.

[shadowknight]

Nov 15, 2013 15:51:24 GMT CosmicBehemoth said:

Apart from the Titanotheres, the Empire should be fine about things. And even those should be vulnerable to rocket launchers and lasers and heavy blasters.

So what are we looking at for numbers for the Imperials here, in troops and vehicles?

I posted it above, the single I-class Star Destroyer that is being used in this match can field:

-9,700 Ground Troops(in this case the Legion and their evo support Units)

-50 Mechanized units(20 At-Ats and 30 At-Sts)

-60 Air units (48 TIE/LN starfighters and 12
 TIE/sa bombers)
along with additional gun boats, shuttle craft, and troop landers if need be.

[CosmicBehemoth]

If I remember right, Quaritch said that the Na'vi army at the end of the movie could have easily swelled to twenty thousand, so there's that comparison.

I've got to say that a much smaller and much nimbler TIE bomber with a few proton bombs will make short work of the tree of souls, seeing as Jake Sully isn't going to be able to jump onto it and throw grenades into something important. Once air and space support blow up their population centers and demolish their special sites, it's just down to the groundies to fight the resistance remnants. Without Eywa's control of the biosphere, I don't see them lasting long against the Stormtroopers.

[shadowknight]

Nov 15, 2013 17:15:36 GMT CosmicBehemoth said:

If I remember right, Quaritch said that the Na'vi army at the end of the movie could have easily swelled to twenty thousand, so there's that comparison.

I've got to say that a much smaller and much nimbler TIE bomber with a few proton bombs will make short work of the tree of souls, seeing as Jake Sully isn't going to be able to jump onto it and throw grenades into something important. Once air and space support blow up their population centers and demolish their special sites, it's just down to the groundies to fight the resistance remnants. Without Eywa's control of the biosphere, I don't see them lasting long against the Stormtroopers.

Remember though, In the movie they had to be gathered by Jake. Rallied by him riding "The last shadow". It took them time to get together, which the RDA allowed, and I'm sure after the RDA was removed the tribes scattered back to where they came from. So all the Empire has to do is take them out one tribe at a time. If they do start to gather, send in the Ties to harass them from the air and whittle them down, then the ground forces can mop up.

Also, yea, wiping out their special tree would have broken them, loosing their connection to their earth godess. So yea, I say the Empire gets its mineing post and continues on to take Earth(the attack earth because......why not.)

[GuardianAngel1911-Admin]

Shadow covered the numbers well. And remember this is 1 year after the movie when the dagger shaped ship enters Pandora's orbit.
@cosmic
TIES will but the SD itself will only fire if it's needed to avoid another "Endor"

[KennyC]

Considering how the RDA was almost able to win the 'war' and was only checked by the efforts of the local wildlife, its hard to really see the Na'vi being able to defeat the 501st. 

Not to mention this is only a year after the RDA war, the Na'vi fighting numbers will be greatly reduced.

[CosmicBehemoth]

Oh, I suppose that is a bit of a disadvantage. But remember that the Na'vi have Hell's Gate, which has factories and people who know how to use it's tech. Plus all of the guns from the big battle. I don't see it helping way much against things, but it does give them a bit more of a level field.

[GuardianAngel1911-Admin]

Should I increase the time after the movie? Maybe 20 years? I had forgot to consider the issue of losses after the movie when I made this.

[shadowknight]

Nov 15, 2013 19:00:23 GMT CosmicBehemoth said:

Oh, I suppose that is a bit of a disadvantage. But remember that the Na'vi have Hell's Gate, which has factories and people who know how to use it's tech. Plus all of the guns from the big battle. I don't see it helping way much against things, but it does give them a bit more of a level field.

Well, thinking like a military tactician, one of the FIRST targets that gets hit would be Hell's Gate. For one, its a sitting duck for bombers, for another its a clearing that would make a perfect landing zone for troops, saves the empire the trouble of clearing a patch of forest. So if its not destroyed in the first wave, then its used as staging area for the invasion.