|
Post by MugiwaraBlair on Aug 7, 2013 9:24:30 GMT
Some details of the top of my head about my Fantasy Verse are now alongside OberHerr's Ephemera.
|
|
|
Post by Lady Ruliya on Aug 7, 2013 10:06:30 GMT
Oh wow, your Fantasyverse sound really interesting! I'd love to read some excepts ^^
I've never been particularly good with Fantasy, I can never seem to get things down properly ;P
Now Sci-Fi, Sci-Fi I'm Queen at xD I have a few story's up on the 'Topia if you ever venture that way, but I might post them here. Also, I might make a placeholder for my Sci-Fi verse. Hmm, so many ideas ;P
|
|
|
Post by MugiwaraBlair on Aug 7, 2013 16:45:47 GMT
I'll make a rundown of my Sci-Fi too when I'm less tired of typing lol. Also I'll go check out your stuff after I finish kicking psn in the nuts.
|
|
|
Post by silverstarcross on Aug 8, 2013 2:21:39 GMT
@cross-> Thanks ^^ It'd be nice ya, as for where we were, when you invited me here I was accidentally derailing a vs thread on FactPile by mentioning how my fantasy verse could kick 40K's butt @lady Ruliya-> Thanks too ^^ I brought donuts Oh I remember that, I also might have recalled that Unless we're talking Bastard!?, no known Fantasy I'd be aware of could expect to slay the Top Dogs of WH 40,000 and get away with it. (Not without a lot of Audacity involved, and Full Metal Alchemist does not have that! Except for the Homunculi, but I digress!)
Anyway, if any of the Top dogs of that Fantasy series can fight it out with any of the Top Dogs of the Tenchi Muyo Multi-verse*, odds are quite good they could* deadlock The Dresden Files*, Super Robot Wars or Wheel of Time all on their own, individually of course. 1.) (Let it be known I underlined the 'Could' for a reason!Don't even think about pulling out Lightsabers at me!) 2.) (That said, if they can do this, they could deadlock much of The known Butcher Side, Could is not the same as Would, though!) 3.) (Let it be known I would never claim the TM multi-verse above TDF, SRW or Wheel of Time, either in terms of Power Levels or in terms of Worlds/Galaxies to live at, at best they're all equal to me!)
|
|
|
Post by MugiwaraBlair on Aug 8, 2013 2:56:27 GMT
Well on average the WH 40,000 verse is stronger since the denizens of my verse are around or barely above street level and since the story takes place on a single planet they're also much less numerous. But the chain of bigger fish is very long and the top dogs of it are extremely powerful. For exemples from what I know of them, all primarchs put together would become mops for Uzza to wipe the floor with and Srtr makes what I've read about the GEoM sound cute. Also the fact that there are no souls in my verse would limit psykers.
Tenchi Muyo's top tier I hear are multiversal gods or something, I dunno much of the Dresden Files, nothing of Super Robot Wars and not much more than nothing on WoT. For my verse to compete with those I'd have to count cosmic horrors and "deities". The top top supreme, capital G entity thinks calling it a God is stupid and doesn't interfere much if ever. But that thing is a true transcendental omnipotent so if counted in then my verse could take pretty much any other verse.
|
|
|
Post by silverstarcross on Aug 8, 2013 3:05:03 GMT
Well on average the WH 40,000 verse is stronger since the denizens of my verse are around or barely above street level and since the story takes place on a single planet they're also much less numerous. But the chain of bigger fish is very long and the top dogs of it are extremely powerful. For examples from what I know of them, all primarchs put together would become mops for Uzza to wipe the floor with and Srtr makes what I've read about the GEoM sound cute. Also the fact that there are no souls in my verse would limit psykers. Tenchi Muyo's top tier I hear are multiversal gods or something, I dunno much of the Dresden Files, nothing of Super Robot Wars and not much more than nothing on WoT. For my verse to compete with those I'd have to count cosmic horrors and "deities". The top top supreme, capital G entity thinks calling it a God is stupid and doesn't interfere much if ever. But that thing is a true transcendental omnipotent so if counted in then my verse could take pretty much any other verse. YIKES!!!! Yet it somehow feels smarter than a lot of stuff noted by Cassandra Clare on average, as far as organized structures are concerned. (At least Pre-The Mortal Instruments days anyway!)I meant Barring the TM!-verse gods themselves on the latter bit, but the rest may as well be valid. Funny you should mention that, because WoT, TDF and SRW may have responses and/or counterparts to the Big-G man somewhere as well. (Unless I'm mis-recalling on all 3, in which case I apologize to the Admiral of the site! ) It might also make a lot of Discworld in general seem less merciless in comparison as well. (Granted I didn't read much on Discworld either, but I was always asking about the dot hack universe vs Discworld!)
|
|
|
Post by MugiwaraBlair on Aug 8, 2013 3:18:25 GMT
By "true omnipotent" I mean it can do things like make it so 2+2=a rock is mathematically accurate, break indestructible things, create an object of infinite mass and move it, etc. Unless the competition is at that level it can just nonchalantly whim them out of existence, even if they don't technically "exist" per se, like Sithis.
|
|
|
Post by silverstarcross on Aug 8, 2013 3:28:26 GMT
By "true omnipotent" I mean it can do things like make it so 2+2=a rock is mathematically accurate, break indestructible things, create an object of infinite mass and move it, etc. Unless the competition is at that level it can just nonchalantly whim them out of existence, even if they don't technically "exist" per se, like Sithis. Fair point either way. Note to self: If I ever go to describe events that take place in multiple galaxies, I better make sure the ground forces for at least some of the factions won't have the higher ranks get pasted all over the place by the forces of your world, among other things. Also I'll have to see to it that all factions have abilities to kill their enemies, as should their enemies even exist at all, they can be killed, Souls or no Souls.
|
|
|
Post by MugiwaraBlair on Aug 8, 2013 3:47:23 GMT
Suppose we get a ginormous empty field big enough for all of the IoM to comfortably fit in it, and send the Domain of Arcadia's entire military against it. That'd be like...40 thousand (incidentally) soldiers vs what ? trillions ? The imperial guard would prolly mow down the mooks since they have guns but many of them would get bombarded by mages and the paladins could waltz through their fire and cleave them apart. Then SMs would probably tank enough spells to overpower the mages and would get through paladin armor and shields with power weapons and brute strength. But then Uzza would solo.
I'm also fairly assured that Srtr roflpawns all of 40k, chaos gods and GEoM in his prime included. But to be fair, Srtr is the thing prophesied to destroy the universe.
|
|
|
Post by silverstarcross on Aug 8, 2013 3:58:09 GMT
Suppose we get a ginormous empty field big enough for all of the IoM to comfortably fit in it, and send the Domain of Arcadia's entire military against it. That'd be like...40 thousand (incidentally) soldiers vs what ? trillions ? The imperial guard would prolly mow down the mooks since they have guns but many of them would get bombarded by mages and the paladins could waltz through their fire and cleave them apart. Then SMs would probably tank enough spells to overpower the mages and would get through paladin armor and shields with power weapons and brute strength. But then Uzza would solo. I'm also fairly assured that Srtr roflpawns all of 40k, chaos gods and GEoM in his prime included. But to be fair, Srtr is the thing prophesied to destroy the universe. That's like reading Department 19: The Rising and reading the chapter about Vlad Tepes Dracul leading his army against the Turks, only even bloodier and gorierthan that. ' I'd say that the Yikes factor is Over 9,000, but that would be a Hell of an Understatement if anything. Barring Srtr, Uzza and her counterpart in the Male Ruler, does any of the Mages from the Domain have a Canon!-Unlimited Magic Score by chance, as far as named cases are concerned? Yes I know that having a UMS does not automatically mean You're Hax Incarnate by itself, but it doesn't mean its something to scoff off lightly either, at least not normally.
|
|
|
Post by MugiwaraBlair on Aug 8, 2013 4:21:05 GMT
From the Domain no, but some of the rest of the world ya, more or less. Some mages have mana reserves so deep it might as well be infinite. Fae never run out, Wraiths regain reserves from negative feelings the morally questionable IoM would give them lots of fuel. Kat the Tech Mage cannot cast spells but her reserves of mana are mind-boggingly huge. And if I take later versions of her, Melissa the Necro Blaster eventually becomes even more hax than she is from the start. The Dryad Hunter isn't a caster but technically still a mage and her unatural abilities are permanent so in a sense she never runs dry.
Edit: speaking of Fae, one of the eldest Fae, Daeva in sealed inside a medallion and is thus essentially a genie. This is more or less an excuse for an elder fae to interact with mortals. To give an idea of the gap between them, Daeva initially couldn't grasp how normal people could stop living nor how they had to actually put effort into getting results because immortality and reality warping are such a given to them.
|
|
|
Post by silverstarcross on Aug 8, 2013 4:24:33 GMT
YIKES!!!!
Dang, the cases with Canon!-UMS on them definitely earned their scores right there.
Do they have any Illegal Powers worth noting in particular?
|
|
|
Post by MugiwaraBlair on Aug 8, 2013 4:29:58 GMT
What counts as an Illegal Power ?
|
|
|
Post by silverstarcross on Aug 8, 2013 4:32:28 GMT
Well for any examples I'd name, the Potter-world has the well-known Unforgivable Curses, and the dot hack universe's response to that would be the Data Drain variations. I can provide wikia links for both if you like, but these are the tip of the iceberg for examples. I'm sure there's more, but something tells me that the Scrap Codes the IoM could unleash would be very Illegal. I can't be sure if the Illegality is for Supernatural reasons or if its just Tech-based in Illegal regards, I don't recall much about it.
|
|
|
Post by MugiwaraBlair on Aug 8, 2013 4:48:23 GMT
Well necromancy is very well regarded but it's only forbidden to raise the corpses of sentients from burial grounds or some such. Melissa gets around this by animating objects made from formerly living things. Harmful spells with larger AoEs are treated similarly to how we treat artillery, bombardment or nuking. A light elven archmage could summon a typhoon of lightning over an entire nation but he be put on trial for massive property destruction and genocide. Demonic magic is outright forbidden but that's because it's demonic, thus literally fueled by evil, not because it's hax. Space and Time magic is extremely restricted, transmutation is also heavily limited and using it on living things is forbidden. Obviously summoning inherently dangerous things is also forbidden. Oh ! Blood magic is hax and forbidden. Many of the things Kat does are claimed to be forbidden but this is seriously dubious since she invents those things, there can't be a law against them already.
|
|