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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2016 0:57:01 GMT
Okay so here's a thread where we can discuss the spoilers if we want to as well as theories about this and later movies
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Post by shadowknight on Jan 1, 2016 1:15:30 GMT
Ok, so first off. Ray is obviously Luke Skywalker's daughter. I mean, the Luke's theme plays when she fights, Obi-Wan's force ghost talks to her at the end of her vision, hell the family lightsaber fucking chooses HER as its owner.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2016 1:46:12 GMT
Yeah there are other things too, her natural power with the Force, the fact that she gave into the Force in much the same way Luke was prone to doing in the old EU after becoming Grand Master (which considering all the things around Kylo Ren that were borrowed from Darth Caedeus isn't surprising) hell I bet one of the Jedi that Kylo killed was Rey's mother and that Rey was there when it happened and Kylo was going to take her but Luke swooped in and beat his wannabe ass down forcing him and his knights to retreat. - Also I know a lot of people think that the planet Luke is on is Rakata Prime....but I'm betting its Disney Canon Tython. Hell they even look similar oceans and sweeping green. And unless they radically altered the Rakata it wasn't....for lack of a better term techy enough to be the Rakatan homeworld. Plus it is literally the origin of the Jedi where Rakata Prime would be more for the origins of the Force than the Jedi. Here's the new canon map where we can see Rakata Prime not actually that far from the Star Killer Base origin point actually, But also I'm pretty sure its not in quite the right location in comparison to the hologram map R2 and BB8 projected but I'd need to look at them side by side to be certain.
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Post by Zeritia on Jan 1, 2016 2:05:50 GMT
Tython's considered to be located in the Deep Core of the Galaxy so if anything it'd be closer to Coruscant by Light year distances. Probably a new planet entirely
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2016 2:26:17 GMT
True, but who knows what all they are changing about it.
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Post by shadowknight on Jan 1, 2016 2:55:29 GMT
Also, ray may have been to Luke's planet before,or had visions of it. During Ren's interrogation he pulls info from her mind about how she would dream that she was on a green island surrounded by water, an ocean........guess where Luke is at the end.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2016 5:22:45 GMT
Pretty much
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Post by shadowknight on Jan 1, 2016 5:26:09 GMT
Also saw that rumor that snoke is actually darth plagus
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2016 6:26:51 GMT
I kinda lean that way as well, I wouldn't be surprised at any rate. I'll be happy whoever he is but I feel like Plagius is a safe bet
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Jan 2, 2016 18:26:29 GMT
It would fit with a bunch of things thematically
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Post by shadowknight on Jan 3, 2016 1:14:11 GMT
I also have seen a bunch of people complaining that the First Order seems to powerful. My theory is is that after the empire collapsed it broke up into waring factions (much like the old EU) during that time they lost most of the galaxy and the New Republic rose to fill the power vacuum. As the years passed the imperial remnant virtualy dissolved, with the galaxy at peace the republic disbanded most of its fleet, keeping only a modest defense fleet for keeping the peace. A few more years pass and a,large section of space goes dark. Snoke(plagueus) has gathered the remaining imperial forces under his banner, unopposed by the weakened Republic they spread across many systems. In the New imperial space a resistance movement was formed by the occupied system. This Resistance movement has modeled itself after the old rebel alliance, even using the rebel crest,. The New Republic, unable to fight a full on conflict, secretly supports the resistance by providing them weapons, money, and old alliance tech. Even former Rebel leaders joined the resistance, adding much needed military experience
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 3, 2016 2:23:37 GMT
That's exactly what the Disney novels around the period say, the First Order came out on top of the pile, went into the Unknown Regions and they've been waiting and plotting for years and amassing their forces. The Resistance is the New Republics way of fighting the First Order without taking exact military actions because they don't have a New Republic Military they went back to the way old each system does its own military thing system and the capital rotates with each election. So the New Republic has no Grand Army of the Republic but a bunch of militias essentially, while the Military Junta that is the First Order has been building their forces for 30 years to the point that Snoke didn't give two shits about losing Starkiller Base, that was a light bruise where the New Republic got straight up gut punched and is reeling.
Snoke got exactly what he wanted even with Starkiller base exploding into the sun. His primary apprentice leveled up to a legit Sith by diving head first into the darkside by killing his daddy (meanwhile the other Knights of Ren are still wannabes) and he can finally trust Kylo as a legit apprentice and teach him the Darkside, the New Republic just got the shit kicked out of them and the Resistance even took a major hit. The New Republic is going to be scrambling to elect new senators, new chancellors, etc etc and are going to get bogged down bitching about if they should create a legit army or if this was a fluke and the First Order is still no real threat as the majority believed. The Resistance was all the New Republic was willing to allow to go after Snoke. And now Snoke has 30 years worth of fuck knows what hidden in the darkest most uncharted regions of the Galaxy waiting to Blitzkrieg the shit out of the New Republic. The fact the loss of an entire planet meant fuck all to Snoke is either a testament to his evilness....or just how much buildup he and Kylo and the other Rens were doing. Snoke is a clever son of a bitch because he fucking Xanatosed this shit, whether or not the Resistance took down the base he finally has a new Palpatine to train and the New Republic of Disney Canon is going to waste time bitching and moaning like the Legends Canon government did during the Vong invasion until Snoke is walking into their house and naming them his bitches. We're talking a 7 foot tall Sith Lord (who more than likely survived Palpatine's best efforts to murder the fuck out of him and Palpy was far from a lightweight even in Disney) if Snoke decides to just waltz straight into any building in the New Republic now they can't stop him Vader and Palpatine could palm slap blasters and Vader could slap tank blasts back at them what the fuck is the New Republic going to do against a Sith Lord who Vader would have to literally look up to face to face, Luke is the only person at the moment who stands any kind of chance and even with Rey its a question because of Kylo having his boy band of possible Sith Wannabes on his side and who knows what else. When you really think about it Snoke won in Force Awakens, he lost Starkiller but didn't give a shit, the important higher ups like Kylo and Phasma evacuated safely as well as the admirals and generals Kylo is ready to become a real Sith.....and the New Republic and Resistance are in shambles.
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Jan 3, 2016 19:59:58 GMT
What did you guys think of Kylo ?
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Jan 3, 2016 20:22:00 GMT
He's a whiny bitch kid, though I've heard people say he's 'Anakin done right'
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Jan 3, 2016 23:46:11 GMT
I kinda agree in the sense that, he's the same thing done better, but I also think that Anakin shouldn't have been that thing at all.
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