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Post by CosmicBehemoth on Jan 11, 2015 2:15:01 GMT
May as well speak about it here to not need spoiler tags.
Thought it was pretty good, but as was mentioned, some issues I had:
-Thorin's death was dumb as fuck. Horny Teenagers in a slasher movie would have been able to realize Azog wasn't fucking dead. Thorin you dumb asshole why did you fall for that?
-Deus ex Aquila. Yep.
-Romance shit was shit. Tauriel's character mostly boiled down to love interest, and I'm disappointed in her arc beginning and ending as precisely that.
-Golden tits. God damn it Alfred, this is time we could have spent on more Nazgul fighting.
-Personally, I thought Sauron went down like a chump, they could have made him a lot more of a challenge, weakened as he may have been. Nazgul were pretty sick though.
-SHAI-HULUD, MUAD'DIB!
-That "name dropping Aragorn in every way except actually using that name" was a little silly.
But it was fun. Bilbo probably has PTSD and the One Ring fucking with him, but he chugs right on for another sixty years. You the MVP, Master Baggins.
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Jan 11, 2015 10:59:03 GMT
When he tells Legolas about strider, this 5/6 year old shouts out several times 'Aaragorn, it's Aaragorn!' I found it immensely cute.
Tauriel was a huge disappointment. No badass women in Middle Earth still, what utter bullshit.
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Post by CosmicBehemoth on Jan 11, 2015 20:53:12 GMT
Haha.
Both Fili and Kili were destined to die alongside Thorin from the start, Tauriel was just a device to try to make us feel bad when they did, it seems.
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Jan 11, 2015 20:56:16 GMT
I figured after Arwen became a love interest, and by that I mean, that is the ONLY thing she is. She has no character outside that, I'd hoped Tauriel would be the badass Elf, but nope, another love interest only character >.<
Why is Eowyn the only fighting female? I bloody hate her >.>
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Post by CosmicBehemoth on Jan 11, 2015 20:59:13 GMT
They didn't even have to follow her character from the novels, because she wasn't fucking in the book. She was created completely by PJ, for precisely and only that purpose. Somehow that's even worse than just meddling with established canon, I think.
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Jan 11, 2015 21:07:24 GMT
That is fucking worse. Far worse. It's like, the second Army, the one Legolas and Tauriel go see, also that whole scene... just seemed like a fucking time sink. Coz the army is instantly defeated by... the mother fucking Eagles. So there was no point in the convo where he is bid to return and she's banished, and then the five minutes up there to see an army pour out and... ugh... so much in those movies served no purpose but to pad the fucking thing...
PJ and New Line clearly need more money, hence making it arbitrarily longer and into 3 movies.
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Post by CosmicBehemoth on Jan 11, 2015 21:11:13 GMT
I'm fairly certain there's a line stating that even with the arrival of the eagles, the battle was long and only won by the heroes at high cost. This damn stuff only reinforces how stupid it was that Eagles weren't just used to fly to Mordor to destroy the ring. There's literally nothing in Middle Earth that can stop them, jayzus.
It was a decent thought on Jackson's part to try and diversify the otherwise all male cast, but boy howdy did he bungle it.
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Jan 11, 2015 21:20:30 GMT
The reason, cannonly stated afaik, is that the Eagles consider themselves above the petty squabbles of the other races. They only help Gandalf because he saved their King once upon-a-time, and he's a freaking Ishtari. But, as a friend said to me after the film, the good guys need some big air guys, coz they have all these bats, or the Nazgul in LotR. And he's kinda right lol.
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Post by CosmicBehemoth on Jan 12, 2015 23:18:44 GMT
Though in the Hobbit itself, the Eagles refuse to just fly the Dwarves to Erebor because they were wary of the men that had colonized the woodland along the way, and their apparently really awesome bow skills.
But I guess as long as it isn't Woodsmen, the Eagles don't give a fuck.
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Post by Zeritia on Jan 14, 2015 2:18:44 GMT
why did I NOT notice this?! Now I can gush out nerd facts out the wazoo! XD
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Post by CosmicBehemoth on Jan 14, 2015 4:00:05 GMT
The Dwarves were pretty cool, even if Dain was a little gratuitously dwarven.
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