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Post by Knukails on Apr 17, 2014 8:30:04 GMT
In Synthesis everything becomes the same, the galaxy stagnates. Nothing is challenged, nothing changes. The Guardian must chose who to protect & from what. Eventually the guardian will start protecting people from themselves. While the guardian will see this as a logical & wise choice, those who once welcomed it's protection now fear & despise it.
Conflict, death, war,…these are things that challenge & change things. In conflict New things are learned & forged, the scale tips in a new direction. (Her sons defeating the Juubi, choosing to spread the knowledge of Chakra) In the death, new life will be born (The Juubi becoming the Bijuu) In War new ideals can be pursued, frustrations vented, peace can be forged. (Hashi/Madara, the villages, clans)
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Apr 17, 2014 8:50:16 GMT
She was preventing people from killing each other, they vilified her and soon as she was gone they started making war and they haven't stopped since. Might as well leave them alone and let them die from their foolishness
I dunno how she was doing it but if it was me, I've said before how I would rule the world. I'd establish peace by removing everything that prevents it from being.
Besides an iron fist works better than a velvet hand. If people love you they might still do stupid shit to "help you" but if they fear you they'll never dare do anything. And the smart ones would realize that my solution works and that they have no reason to feel threatened by me because they're not doing anything wrong. Those who don't realize that are irrelevant but still won't be in any danger so long as they keep acting fine.
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Post by Knukails on Apr 17, 2014 9:01:32 GMT
I guess this goes for both sides; We don't know why she became vilified. She could have slaughtered a nation.
There's the flaw in that logic though. Your removing what you think will keep the piece. Those decisions would/should be based on your personal experience with the subject at hand. You'd be pushing your desires on the populous.
Your wrong about the fear part. Ruling by fear alone breeds hate & resentment. Sure the people won't do anything now, but eventually they will rebel & by "smart" you mean people who think like you.
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Apr 17, 2014 18:33:12 GMT
I think pragmatically, pragmatism is logical and efficient, it's what smart people do. And I can be objective, I don't like religions but I wouldn't kill all religious people. Those who start shit yes but most of them aren't like that.
Besides anyone who would attack me for warding world peace is either a war starting asshole, an idiot who doesn't understand pragmatism or both. So not a big loss
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Apr 23, 2014 12:24:08 GMT
so things escalated quickly in that chapter
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Apr 24, 2014 3:29:34 GMT
Madara is like "Sasuke isn't related to me, but maybe he still has some kind of link"
Wat.
He's an Uchiha ? Hello ? Dafuq you're not related ? You're probably his direct ancestor as it happens >.>
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Apr 24, 2014 6:04:20 GMT
Well the deeper link is them both being avatars of the douchebag ghost brother.
That said yeah...Madara really dropped the ball on keeping track of his direct relatives, I mean beyond just same clan but like nieces, nephews, children if he had any...seriously that's something I'd want to keep an eye on if my plan hinges on no one else having the same damn uber eyes that I have, and my direct kids and nephews/nieces are the most likely candidates to have the abilities so...yeah I'd keep a fucking eye on them. Possibly literally.
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Apr 24, 2014 6:19:01 GMT
Ya, plus if Naruto has a link with Hashirama ofc Sasuke's gonna have a link with Madara
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Apr 24, 2014 6:27:11 GMT
well Sasuke looks like young Madara somewhat. Naruto is literally related to Hashirama through the Uzumaki clan, how distantly I'm not sure but still cousins at worst, so there's no reason Sasuke wouldn't be one of Madara's nephews or something.
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Apr 24, 2014 6:55:44 GMT
Ya it's what I'm saying, though I was being meta, if Naruto descends from hashirama in some way then Sasuke also descends from Madara in some way, thematically and symbolically speaking
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Apr 24, 2014 7:59:44 GMT
Pretty much, Madara not realizing that seems like him dropping the ball really.
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Apr 24, 2014 8:21:34 GMT
Plus for being described as such a master of combat he doesn't seem to be that good of a strategist
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Apr 24, 2014 14:32:17 GMT
True...granted he probably didn't plan on the Sage of Six Paths giving them a super charge. Right up until that moment he was fine.
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Apr 25, 2014 0:18:25 GMT
I mean so far he hasn't beat anyone using strategy, he just steamrolled everyone through sheer power and got in trouble the few times someone started to match him. The extent of his "outsmarting" is pretty much just pulling out something hax
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Post by Knukails on Apr 25, 2014 0:23:24 GMT
From what i recall Sasuke was said to look like Madara's little brother.
Madara ripping out Kakashi's sharing an was brutal
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