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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2014 18:37:16 GMT
Two races of aliens known for mind melding, intelligence, and other things. No this isn't a direct fight, for reasons obvious to anyone who knows both series or has discussed it before. Instead we'll have a series of discussions based around the following: 1. Which race was more influential in their home universe. 2. Which race would you rather meld with a member of (and don't pick based purely on sex please) 3. Which race would you rather live among without being a member of. 4. If they were to switch universes...Asari homeworld replacing the Vulcan homeworld. Asari don't keep Mass Effect tech beyond their natural biotics, Vulcans don't get their Star Trek tech, both races are at the point just before space travel for this purpose though all named characters will still eventually exist (Liara replacing Spock for instance or whatever your decisions to decide) which would be more successful in the other universe, what changes would occur in ME and ST with these different races there. 5. Ha made you think it wouldn't be an option. No but, seriousness. Which race would you rather be a member of, think hard before picking but pick based on your actual feelings of it. Why would you pick that race, what would you do in the universe, at what point in time would you pick to be in the universe. So you have the topics, start discussing.
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Post by shadowknight on Jan 1, 2014 20:59:20 GMT
I would need to think on the answeres for the other ones, but If Liara took Spock's place on the Enterprise.......Well....Kirk gets around a bit.
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Post by Knukails on Jan 1, 2014 21:03:28 GMT
I would need to think on the answeres for the other ones, but If Liara took Spock's place on the Enterprise.......Well....Kirk gets around a bit. Big man Kirk.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2014 21:21:24 GMT
Awesome thing is, Liara could conceivably serve on every main ship from each series under Kirk, Picard, Janeway, etc. Liara was just an example though, mostly because she was on the Normandy so makes sense she'd be the one on the Enterprise in my head. All of them, snarking the hell out of generation after generation of Enterprise crew members. I can honestly see that.
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Post by shadowknight on Jan 1, 2014 21:44:20 GMT
Awesome thing is, Liara could conceivably serve on every main ship from each series under Kirk, Picard, Janeway, etc. Liara was just an example though, mostly because she was on the Normandy so makes sense she'd be the one on the Enterprise in my head. All of them, snarking the hell out of generation after generation of Enterprise crew members. I can honestly see that. Liara would be an invaluble asset, espesialy to later generatons due to experience gained from the years under Kirk, Picard, and what have you......and her biotics would be useful as well. As to Spock replacing Liara on the Normandy.......I'm not to sure.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2014 21:52:40 GMT
I forsee Spock getting punched a lot by Wrex, and Grunt, possibly Garrus. I don't know why...but I do. - How will the Asari change the major conflicts in Star Trek, against Romulans or Klingongs or even the Borg..oh damn Biotics vs Borg.
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Post by CosmicBehemoth on Jan 1, 2014 22:10:18 GMT
Liara would do miles better in Star Trek than Spock would do in Mass Effect.
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Post by shadowknight on Jan 1, 2014 22:12:20 GMT
I forsee Spock getting punched a lot by Wrex, and Grunt, possibly Garrus. I don't know why...but I do. - How will the Asari change the major conflicts in Star Trek, against Romulans or Klingongs or even the Borg..oh damn Biotics vs Borg. Well, my Trek Knowledge is more than a bit rusty, so you may have to ask others on that last part. As to the top portion, Can you imagine Spock trying to to the neck pinch on a Krogan, with their redundant Nervous systems and all that.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2014 22:19:33 GMT
Wrex: Did you just try to knock me out pointy ears Spock: I now realize how illogical that was.... then in ME 2
Shepard: W..why is Spock on the floor Grunt: He tried to knock me out with that pinch thing they do. Shepard: Dammit Spock....
and ME3 Spock tries the pinch on Wrex's brother in the push to cure the genophage and gets decked..again. Shepard: Dammit Spock stop pissing off the Krogans.
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Post by CosmicBehemoth on Jan 1, 2014 22:21:53 GMT
Do you know how many Vulcan there are? How many planets and ships and such they have?
I'm not sure which I'd rather live among. I don't actually particularly like the Asari, but I'm not overly fond of the Vulcan either.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 1, 2014 22:29:18 GMT
it's the same with the Asari, which is why I said homeworld shortly before space flight was created for both sides.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on Jan 2, 2014 5:03:01 GMT
Anyone want to add more to this?
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Post by Knukails on Jan 2, 2014 5:11:06 GMT
I would like to but I'm not very informed on Star Trek.
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Post by Jowo on Aug 17, 2014 14:41:59 GMT
First, I believe Element Zero is required in order to gain biotic abilities. Since it is not present in the Star Trek universe, I believe it impossible for any species to have biotics whilst in that universe (If they are originally from that universe). When you get down to the basics of the two species, they are almost exactly the same except, one is Mono-gendered and blue, the other is dual-gendered and greenish brown. One can have children with any species through melding, the other can have children with humans and members of their own species.
Both are capable of melding, and as far as I can tell they have the same level of skill (ability) as each other. I suppose, if the Vulcans were to take the place that the Asari held in the Mass Effect Universe, they would either mirror the Asari or take on more of a Imperial path. As the early Vulcans were warring amongst themselves. To put it simply, the only reason the Asari are so strong is because they are the FIRST IN THE CURRENT CYCLE to gain prothean technology. They have the most tech at their disposal, as the Protheans left many ancient relics, and even a beacon on their homeworld of Thessia. If the Vulcans filled that void instead of the Asari, the only difference would really probably be galatic relations, their "sensuality" and their interest in humans. I'm sure any species would take a special interest in another, if they were the only other species in the whole galaxy whom they could bare offspring with.
Meanwhile, I doubt the Asari could fill the void in the Star Trek universe if they were put in the same circumstances as the Vulcan. The Asari don't use traditional military strategies. They use more comando-styled combat, and are more mild tempered and less "superior minded" than the Vulcan (IMO). I think that they would be monopolized by the Humans of the Star Trek Universe, yet would still have a similar standing in some ways due to their diplomatic prowess. I doubt they would do better than the Vulcan did though, as the Asari essentially depended on the Protheans in order to maintain an edge throughout the Galaxy in Mass Effect.
(BTW, if I had to be one or the other I'd probably be a Vulcan. And yes, it is because they have males. But also because, space elves are cooler than Ardat-yatshi (Or however you say it).
If I had to choose which race to interact with, I'd rather interact with Asari because I know more about them.
And I think Liara would adapt in Star Trek uni better than Spock would in Mass Effect uni.
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Post by Lowk on Aug 17, 2014 17:11:17 GMT
Last i checked Eezo is only required in making new biotics with the exception of Asari who are naturally born biotic. I think it had something to do with protheans tampering with their biology. All Asari should need to maintain and help new biotics is tech they can use to make the cybernetic amps.
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