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Post by silverstarcross on Oct 30, 2013 23:27:59 GMT
I listed leaders that can fight, many are just nobles or not especially noteworthy, like the dwarven king. Unless of course the Dwarvern Noble Warden is noted to be alive and winds up being the Leader of the Ferelden Dwarves for this fight, right?
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Oct 30, 2013 23:31:43 GMT
Dwarf Wardens become a Paragon, not King per se but the title automatically makes you a noble, even if you were casteless, and you're regarded as basically a living god. For exemple, in the Orzammar part of Origins, your choice of a new king over-rides the entire Assembly/Senate just because it's the will of a Paragon.
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Post by silverstarcross on Oct 30, 2013 23:35:39 GMT
Dwarf Wardens become a Paragon, not King per se but the title automatically makes you a noble, even if you were casteless, and you're regarded as basically a living god. For example, in the Orzammar part of Origins, your choice of a new king over-rides the entire Assembly/Senate just because it's the will of a Paragon. So the Dwarf Warden candidates become Paragons for their people in this match more or less, right? This is interesting. It makes the leadership regards at least as far as Ferelden's concerned a lot easier to keep track of, right? (As it just means that only the Overall Leader of the Wardens will be selected from the Candidates to lead the Wardens to war!)
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Oct 30, 2013 23:44:24 GMT
But being a Paragon only means something to dwarves, most people of other races don't give a shit.
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Post by silverstarcross on Oct 30, 2013 23:46:28 GMT
But being a Paragon only means something to dwarves, most people of other races don't give a shit. Fair point. Its primarily with 'Who's leading the Wardens' when every race will start noticing, correct? Which leaves us back to that one question to ask: Which of the nominees should be the overall leader of the Wardens?
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Oct 30, 2013 23:50:51 GMT
They're all good leaders considering they all manage to unite every faction of Ferelden.
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Post by silverstarcross on Oct 30, 2013 23:53:47 GMT
They're all good leaders considering they all manage to unite every faction of Ferelden. You have a point, there. While on one hand, either the Human(Amell) Warden or the Elf(I can't recall the last name) Mage Warden may actually be able to go head-to-head against any Dragon Rider if they're the overall leader of the Wardens, for Sheer Badassitude's sake the Dalish Elf is to be noted with. Wonder who else ought to join in. Lady RuliyaMind sharing your thoughts with each Warden Candidate? Once we get that matter out of the way, I'm hoping we can address the other matters that are less major but still pretty critical, really.
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Oct 30, 2013 23:58:20 GMT
No "may" there, Magi Warden is pretty much a god-level magic user, any conflict between them and Eragon won't register as a fight to them.
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Post by Lady Ruliya on Oct 31, 2013 0:01:20 GMT
silverstarcross - I've only played the Dalish Elf and Cousland daughter. The Dalish Elf, while Rogue, I only got half way through the game before leaving it a while and trying the Coulsand as a Warrior. Mugi has far more experience than me, and seems to be doing an excellent job in summarizing the participants
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Post by silverstarcross on Oct 31, 2013 0:01:55 GMT
No "may" there, Magi Warden is pretty much a god-level magic user, any conflict between them and Eragon won't register as a fight to them. That's if either of them get picked as the Head of the Wardens, right? YIKES! O___O' I did recall that Eragon is not Human any more than Tsukune from Rosario + Vampire is, though in Tsukune's defense Tsukune fights harder to stay human, more or less. If I recall right, isn't it possible for Magi Wardens to wind up as Arcane Warriors if they survive long enough?
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Post by silverstarcross on Oct 31, 2013 0:07:48 GMT
silverstarcross - I've only played the Dalish Elf and Cousland daughter. The Dalish Elf, while Rogue, I only got half way through the game before leaving it a while and trying the Cousland as a Warrior. Mugi has far more experience than me, and seems to be doing an excellent job in summarizing the participants Didn't the Lady Cousland you play as went lipslocking with Leliana* before making up her mind to go with Alistair? Then winding up getting Axe'd/Killed Off/Et cetera before anything gets done? Mugi's take on the Cousland lady lives longer, and I recall Seikjo of Photobucket having a take on the Cousland She-Warden lady, who even did a hot image of the two of them lipslocking, except I can't recall the first name of that Cousland lady. Even Seikjo's take on the Dalish elf isn't too shabby as far as Badassitude's concerned, she also kind of reminds me of Mina* actually, except Seikjo's take on the Dalish elf wouldn't date her own gender as she just wants that Elf dude whose name eludes me sadly. I recalled PooperScooperi8 having an interesting take on the Amell Warden as well, man PS8 is missed. 1.) (Though as far as I recall, no farther than that!) 2.) (That lady whose image I may have shown you from deviantart, although Seikjo drew Mina first, with at least one Crack!-fic art and One Semi-Canon art piece!)
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Oct 31, 2013 0:08:31 GMT
Ya, Arcane Warrior is what gives Fade Shroud (which makes her partial immaterial) and Shimmering Shield (which makes her nigh immune to damage) and also what allows her to use mana to strengthen her body. Basically for her, 100+ magic=100+ strength.
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Post by silverstarcross on Oct 31, 2013 0:14:06 GMT
Ya, Arcane Warrior is what gives Fade Shroud (which makes her partial immaterial) and Shimmering Shield (which makes her nigh immune to damage) and also what allows her to use mana to strengthen her body. Basically for her, 100+ magic=100+ strength. Meaning if it was necessary, a Maxed Out Mage Warden has the option to just punch EoS Eragon's head clean off and save the 3 Hawke siblings the trouble of getting in the fight of their lives against Eragon, right? Interesting, especially with your take on the Mage Warden saving her cousins so much trouble if it happens, if the Amell Warden or the Elf Mage Warden becomes overall leader. What may a Maxed Out Dalish Elf offer in comparing and contrasting to that, Badassitude-wise?(Not necessarily Raw Power-wise unless there's something equally interesting!)
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Post by MugiwaraBlair on Oct 31, 2013 0:26:28 GMT
Well my dalish had so much Dex she was virtually untouchable, dodged fucking everything so I'd guess that translates into super-reflexes/speed and never misses a shot of her bow. And said bow deals ALOT of damage, like there's a trophy for doing more than 250 in 1 shot, she can do thousands with Arrow of Slaying.
On a somewhat unrelated side-note, Warrior!Warden (Lady Sigrun Cousland in my case) has an ability call "Peon's Might" with allows her to one-shot mooks regardless of actual damage calculation.
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Post by silverstarcross on Oct 31, 2013 0:33:50 GMT
Well my dalish had so much Dex she was virtually untouchable, dodged fucking everything so I'd guess that translates into super-reflexes/speed and never misses a shot of her bow. And said bow deals ALOT of damage, like there's a trophy for doing more than 250 in 1 shot, she can do thousands with Arrow of Slaying. On a somewhat unrelated side-note, Warrior!Warden (Lady Sigrun Cousland in my case) has an ability call "Peon's Might" with allows her to one-shot mooks regardless of actual damage calculation. Lady Sigrun, that kind of sounds like a Fire Emblem Pegasus Knight or a Valkyrie to have that name actually. Amazing, I like it. ^_^
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