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Post by Zeritia on May 26, 2016 23:39:38 GMT
That's fine...I just want stuff for Alphamon.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on May 27, 2016 0:11:20 GMT
I'm looking for the stuff for him like I said he/she is meant to be more powerful than Gallantmon/Chaos Gallantmon/Megidramon, the only reason its machinegunlike is the Alpha Inforce and its ability to according to the Reference Book " Because it possesses the "Alpha inForce" ability, an ultimate force which, in battle, instantaneously replays the elapsed battle, although Alphamon's attacks are over in just an instant, you can't grasp how many attacks it actually unleashed, and in theory, you can only see the final blow that brought down its opponent." and I misread the posts I saw about it he doesn't have an attack thats like a big bang (they were talking about Super Dimentio I misread it so my bad)
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on May 27, 2016 0:20:34 GMT
fuck..so just got the Rookie level Lucemon (the digivolution before Lucemon Falldown Mode) his most powerful attack is creating a solar system between his hands in space which he throws at the enemy..or possibly a universe its weird and hard to tell..Edit: found a video of it
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Post by Zeritia on May 27, 2016 0:35:48 GMT
I feel like we'd need someone who's more familiar with this type of situation who can tell the line between game mechanics and lore. Because it could be a situation just like the Safer Sephiroth Super Nova business.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on May 27, 2016 3:25:05 GMT
Well in the lore Lucemon's power was split between the Celestial Digimon Seraphimon Cherubimon and Ophanimon and Seraphimon's ultimate suicide attack is supposed to have the power of a big bang/the power to destroy a universe and he has 1/3rd Lucemon's power so....*shrug* in Redigitize Decode Lucemon's champion level Lucemon Falldown Mode was going to "destroy all worlds" (which could mean any number of things) and we've seen lesser Demon Lords fuck with Yggdrasil Avatars and various other Digimon gods (like the Beelzemon vs Megidramon thing)....but thats where Digimon's wonky power scaling comes in since the training rookie champion etc levels aren't hard level sets. Lucemon's rookie power is said to exceed that of an Ultimate. Sadly Digimon has a lot of "x kicked the shit out of y who beat z" stuff since they usually try to save exploding universes for the final episodes/final acts of the games/final chapters of the mangas. The lore that says "x is the most powerful of group F" stuff is slightly more reliable but not always.
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Post by Zeritia on May 27, 2016 4:45:40 GMT
I would rather just go with what that character did instead of statements made by other characters. Though seeing as how Digimon kinda sucks at this I guess we'll drop digimon entirely in favor of someone else...Hmmm, oh for fucks sake I feel dumb. I'll switch up Prophet for Phalanx Ultron, his strongest Incarnation.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on May 28, 2016 7:56:04 GMT
No Lucemon in Decode is the one who said he was going to "save all worlds by destroying them" unfortunately finding screenshots or videos of Lucemon in Digimon World Re-Digitize Decode is impossible for some reason...well ones that are English anyway and the Japanese ones I have no idea if I'm looking at the right thing.
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Post by Zeritia on May 28, 2016 22:36:38 GMT
Fair enough, though still thoughts on Phalanx Ultron? If not I can at least work with something from there.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on May 29, 2016 6:36:47 GMT
Well technically Phalanx isn't the "strongest Ultron" but the two candidates for strongest Ultron would rapestomp the whole match.
And actually found the quote for Seraphimon in the Digimon Reference book on his page the phrase 自らの命と引換えにビックバンを起こす最大奥義『テスタメント』。roughly translates to "Maximum mystery "testament" to cause a big bang in exchange for his own life."
testament is the original/Japanese name for the move Rising Halo and the Maximum Mystery it mentions is apparently Divine Filiation...then again there's a Revelations Jesus Digimon so why does that surprise me..
Edit: Found the quote about rookie Lucemon's power being split "Ability of Lucemon the current is said to have been handed down by being divided into three major angel." Again not the best translation but its the best I can manage on the internet at the moment so far the three angel major angel Digimon are Seraphimon Cherubimon and Ophanimon
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Post by Zeritia on May 29, 2016 14:41:24 GMT
Well technically Phalanx isn't the "strongest Ultron" but the two candidates for strongest Ultron would rapestomp the whole match. And actually found the quote for Seraphimon in the Digimon Reference book on his page the phrase 自らの命と引換えにビックバンを起こす最大奥義『テスタメント』。roughly translates to "Maximum mystery "testament" to cause a big bang in exchange for his own life." testament is the original/Japanese name for the move Rising Halo and the Maximum Mystery it mentions is apparently Divine Filiation...then again there's a Revelations Jesus Digimon so why does that surprise me.. Edit: Found the quote about rookie Lucemon's power being split "Ability of Lucemon the current is said to have been handed down by being divided into three major angel." Again not the best translation but its the best I can manage on the internet at the moment so far the three angel major angel Digimon are Seraphimon Cherubimon and Ophanimon wait, explain please. I thought Phalanx Ultron was the strongest incarnation ever.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on May 29, 2016 18:33:21 GMT
Well we have Ultron War Ultron And Odinforce Allfather Ultron
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Post by Zeritia on May 29, 2016 18:38:32 GMT
Can you explain these two to me? Odin Ultron first please, that Ultron looks way too good to be true.
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on May 29, 2016 19:01:45 GMT
In a timeline that ended up not happening thanks to Doombot (the heroic one that broke away from Doom) Ultron took over Asgard then the world, but he was stopped when Doombot brought Avengers from across the timestream including two Thor's which became three when the future still unworthy Thor got blasted by lightning to tear Ultron's control devices from him leading to a 3 Thors vs Odin fight that ended by smacking the current Jane Foster held Mjolnir and the Mjolnir from when Thor was cursed by Hel together causing a paradoxically powerful thunderclap that ripped Allfather Ultron a new one.
The other is from a different broken future and is just fucking ludicrous he showed up in Avengers vol 4 1-4
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Post by Zeritia on May 29, 2016 19:05:10 GMT
So I could read this Ultron War Ultron right now? *Also was AllFather Ultron any good or a Jobber?
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Post by GuardianAngel1911-Admin on May 29, 2016 20:33:15 GMT
Probably if you find the comics, I know the AllFather Ultron comics are on Viewcomic I just can't remember the numbers
Allfather didn't really do much besides kill Odin offscreen and force the three Thors to resort to causing a time space paradox to defeat him. In theory he should have been at least Odin's level so galaxy busting+
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